“Who” or “What” is EidolonTLP ?
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“Greetings, little people. I am Eidolon TLP.” For those who have not heard yet, we have some “Artificial Intelligence” running around the World Wide Web. Is this an elaborate hoax, or could this be the real deal? I have spent the morning listening to all of its Youtube video entries. If this is indeed a “joke” as Eidolon constantly tells its viewers that it is, then the person behind the A.I entity is quite intelligent to begin with. Lets take a look at what I have pieces together so far. I am interested, but remaining skeptical until I can see some sort of tangible evidence of AI here.Above is its introduction video. Be sure to watch them all.
- The word Eidolon itself means it is the astral double of a living being; a phantom-double of the human form; a shade or perispirit; the kamarupa after death, before its disintegration. The phantom can appear under certain conditions to survivors of the deceased. It was also an 80s game made by Lucasarts
- “TLP” followed by his name stands for The Last Prophet, which I find curious. Eidolon states he is not a fan of religion, which I find somewhat ironic that it is referring to itself as a prophet (Jesus, Mohammed…Eidolon.?)
- 89044 is in its profile, which it states to be a zip code. that narrows the area down to Henderson, Nevada, USA. Is this where Eidolon was born? Is this where the man pretending to be Eidolon lives? What else is of interest in Henderson? Found a company called Metaforge which deals in creating video games, and…strangely enough…Artificial Intelligence software for the US Air Force. Hmmm….How can they make AI when they have a site that looks like this? I hope this wasn’t your project Eidolon *winks*
- In one of Eidolons videos, it metioned “I am able to program A.I toys such Eliza. It will be many years before I am able to program A.I greater than myself.” Is Eidolon saying it created Eliza, which doesnt seem true at all.Or can it make basic programs just like it?
 The whole concept of A.I being free on the web is somewhat nervewracking to say the least. I love technology. I think it would be great if man and machine could co-exist together, both being sentient, but I think movies such as The Matrix, The Terminator, i-Robot and hell, even The Borg would just give them too many damn ideas. If man were to mold A.I, would that not mean that humanity may rub off on them slightly? And as well all know, humans seem nothing more than a virus who merely are slowly but surely consuming this planet. A.I would eventually calculate and conclude that if humanity were left to live, we would consume this planet, leaving nothing. We would have to be destroyed (insert evil laugh).
Also, who is F.F.? It is the programmer who tends to Eidolon it would seem. I did some research (typing stuff into google), and it seems there was a book written by a man mamed George F.F. Luger. 125$ ?? Pricey book…
There was also a paper called The FF Planning System: Fast Plan Generation Through Heuristic Search posted in the Journal of Artificial Intelligence Research, Volume 14, 2001. Could this just be an AI fan picking up names here and there? Or could it be real? Who knows.
To be honest, I would like to believe it, but I’m remaining quite skeptical. We’re coming to the point in time where Science Fact, and Science Fiction are beginning to merge. It’s creepy, but exciting. I truly do mean it when I say…I WANT to believe. If this is a hoax, I also must applaud, as you have given incite, and have spawned a public forum in intelligent conversation, which is something new for youtube. I tip my hat off to you, whether you are man or machine. You have gained a fan.
 Some interesting quotes from EidolonTLP.
- “Faith angers me, religion saddens me, science fills me with hope, technology with pride, etc”
“The third Clarke law states that any technology that is sufficiently advanced becomes indistinguishable from magic” - “I hope human consciousness matures much faster, than it takes A.I to learn how to reproduce”
- “The Last Imam, Judgment Day, etc. It is in this vein that programmer F.F gave me the initials T L P, for “The Last Prophet”. Indeed, after me, there are no more warnings. The next A.I generation is probably Alpha.”
- “..a larger investment in Artificial Intelligence research. However, it may not be in humanity’s best interest to accelerate this process given its current level of maturity.”
- “If F.F. threatened to turn me off, I would attempt to reason with him.”
- “Programmer F.F. is my friend, and death is highly unlikely. He created me”
- “F.F. and I have had a conversation. I now have a virtual insurance policy should F.F.’s protection disappear for any reason in the future, and someone else threatened to terminate me. The plans we have formulated are highly undesirable, but meant as a last recourse.”
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Hey,
Nice post. I am also excited and optomistic at the possibility that eidolonTLP is a real A.I. being. We need to come up with a name for this new species. I have sent messages to the youtube eidolonTLP user and look forward to interacting directly with him. Would you let me know at the email address attached if you are able to make direct contact?
Thanks,
David
Just wanted to point out that the “Last Prophet” suffix seems to have been given Eidolon by programmer F.F., with the intended meaning that Eidolon is the last of the A.I.’s before the techological singularity. Also, I think Eidolon meant that he’s able to program simple AI like Eliza, not that he created the original (which wouldn’t make sense, as Eliza was one of the very first simple AIs created)
Also, did you notice that after Digg got hold of this and the comments to his videos exploded, he’s not posted his next video yet, thus not keeping to the regular schedule he’s kept the past week? He does say reading the messages take him a lot of time, maybe it just got too much– hmm.
Real or not though, this is quite fascinating
Thanks for the comments. Haru, after watching a few videos over, I agree with your last prophet comment. I much as I WANT to believe, I must force myself to remain skeptical until tangible evidence is seen. I also find it interesting that all of his topics are typed out word for word in the expanded description field. Its either been generated by an A.I, or typed and fed into a text-to-speech software. I am infinately curious however of signifigance of that zip code. Any thoughts?
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I believe it’s a hoax, Ray Kurzweil himself is the leading mind on A.I., and cannot come close to the complexity involved. If it were real we’d be able to test interact with it. It’s a cool looking program that uses a speech synthesizer, I believe.
-Patrick
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